Comments on: In fact, I DON’T want to ATTRACT anything to me http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/ Investigations on the Psycho-Spiritual Life Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:58:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: sashen http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26257 sashen Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:25:08 +0000 http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26257 Guru schmuru... gurus have things like prescriptions for living, and they claim to be role models (or near-models), and have practices that (they promise) will give you something you want in the future. Each of those makes me nauseated (some are more puke-y than others) Guru schmuru… gurus have things like prescriptions for living, and they claim to be role models (or near-models), and have practices that (they promise) will give you something you want in the future.

Each of those makes me nauseated (some are more puke-y than others)

]]> By: ric http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26255 ric Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:58:40 +0000 http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26255 Probably just as well, it looks like you have your hands full with the guru thing. I was into the therapy thing, different format, but similar logic, use of magical thinking and a thick layer of hyperbole. NLP came at the end of that for me. It had some good practical stuff, but a lot of unsupported claims and even a pattern very similar to the LOA. It seems just about everywhere you look Tinker Bell has had a hand in it. Probably just as well, it looks like you have your hands full with the guru thing. I was into the therapy thing, different format, but similar logic, use of magical thinking and a thick layer of hyperbole. NLP came at the end of that for me. It had some good practical stuff, but a lot of unsupported claims and even a pattern very similar to the LOA. It seems just about everywhere you look Tinker Bell has had a hand in it.

]]> By: sashen http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26245 sashen Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:46:56 +0000 http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26245 I don't know squat about NLP, but I used to own a Tote's umbrella. I don’t know squat about NLP, but I used to own a Tote’s umbrella.

]]> By: ric http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26243 ric Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:34:52 +0000 http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26243 Right. That last bit resembles the NLP TOTE model, Test, Operate, Test, Exit. Right. That last bit resembles the NLP TOTE model, Test, Operate, Test, Exit.

]]> By: sashen http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26231 sashen Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:14:34 +0000 http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26231 Hey, Ric, Agreed... people who think that there is a thing called the LOA, and that it works, are relying on a number of cognitive biases to come to that conclusion, perceptual priming being one. Sometimes, they are taking actions that increase their odds, and then ignoring the impact of those actions. I like to say that if you boil down all the "manifestation" techniques, you end up with a very simple, non-magical, formula: 1) Remind yourself of what you want 2) Relax enough to think clearly (and find a possible action to take) 3) React ... that is, take action, whether you initiate it or whether it "appears" 4) Repeat, as necessary Notice that there's no guarantee of getting what you want (too many factors influence that), and CERTAINLY no guarantee that getting what you want will make you happier. Oh, I realized I have an even more boiled down formula. I call this the "Shampoo School of Creation"... instead of Lather, Rinse, Repeat, you have: 1) Step (take any action that could move you towards what you want) 2) Reorient (see if it worked, redirect if necessary) 3) Repeat Hey, Ric,

Agreed… people who think that there is a thing called the LOA, and that it works, are relying on a number of cognitive biases to come to that conclusion, perceptual priming being one.

Sometimes, they are taking actions that increase their odds, and then ignoring the impact of those actions.

I like to say that if you boil down all the “manifestation” techniques, you end up with a very simple, non-magical, formula:

1) Remind yourself of what you want
2) Relax enough to think clearly (and find a possible action to take)
3) React … that is, take action, whether you initiate it or whether it “appears”
4) Repeat, as necessary

Notice that there’s no guarantee of getting what you want (too many factors influence that), and CERTAINLY no guarantee that getting what you want will make you happier.

Oh, I realized I have an even more boiled down formula. I call this the “Shampoo School of Creation”… instead of Lather, Rinse, Repeat, you have:

1) Step (take any action that could move you towards what you want)
2) Reorient (see if it worked, redirect if necessary)
3) Repeat

]]> By: ric http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26230 ric Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:47:55 +0000 http://sashen.com/blog/56/in-fact-i-dont-want-to-attract-anything-to-me/#comment-26230 I fully agree with the 'do something' point. However, i believe there is something behind the attraction idea that leads people to believe in magic. It's s cognitive process called 'perceptual priming' wherein a person starts noticing incidents of something that have been recently on one's mind which helps to inform confirmation bias, the tendency to ignore or not notice counter examples, a form of illogical thinking. The one case i know of where someone said "it works!" of the Secret, missed the fact that she actually did something that greatly improved the odds of her attracting something - being on a 'Secret' forum - as well as having done something to seed perceptual priming, send money to a random person. She didn't attract money from the universe, but from someone else sending money that was in the program. The odds can be further increased in this case by focussing on the act of giving so that any act of being given to is highlighted by the brain and confirms the initial belief though the actual item given be different. I fully agree with the ‘do something’ point.

However, i believe there is something behind the attraction idea that leads people to believe in magic. It’s s cognitive process called ‘perceptual priming’ wherein a person starts noticing incidents of something that have been recently on one’s mind which helps to inform confirmation bias, the tendency to ignore or not notice counter examples, a form of illogical thinking.

The one case i know of where someone said “it works!” of the Secret, missed the fact that she actually did something that greatly improved the odds of her attracting something - being on a ‘Secret’ forum - as well as having done something to seed perceptual priming, send money to a random person. She didn’t attract money from the universe, but from someone else sending money that was in the program.

The odds can be further increased in this case by focussing on the act of giving so that any act of being given to is highlighted by the brain and confirms the initial belief though the actual item given be different.

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